St. Paul desired Church kept safe for only 4 centuries?!

From Dr. Meshreky's book "Responsibility for the Generation":


Responsibility toward the generation

Apostle Paul entreats his beloved disciple Timothy and speaks of the end times in 2 Timothy 2: 2, And the things that you heard from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.

These words highlight the fact that apostle Paul desired the spiritual deposits to be kept and preserved for up to four generations. In this verse, the four generations are Paul, from Paul to Timothy, from Timothy to the faithful men, and finally, the faithful men to the others who were taught by them. Why did Paul have this preoccupation with the generations? It was because he understood the value of the spiritual deposits. He was given many revelations, and he knew that these revelations would keep the Church of God safe from divisions. If these revelations disappeared from the Church for one reason or another, divisions and problems would begin to appear in the Church.

Acts 20: 29-30 29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.

From the first century, during Paul’s own life, he could see in the spirit, the wolves that would come and do harm to the flock and speak perverse things. He understood that the only way to keep the Church safe was to keep the spiritual treasures and revelations safe. He knew that his life was coming to an end, so he turned to his faithful disciple Timothy. Entreating him to take care of these words, and all the revelations that he had heard from Paul, and to live them out; not only living out the truths for himself, but also passing them on to the faithful, those who knew that they were receiving treasures and those who would take on the responsibility for these treasures. And in turn, the faithful would pass it along to others, so that as long as the treasures were passed on, the Church would be safe.

It is interesting that Paul was thinking of four generations. During that time, a generation implied a century. This means that Paul was thinking ahead to four centuries in order to keep the Church safe from divisions. If you study the history of the Church, it is amazing to find that the Church was actually kept safe from discord and united up until the 4th century. Divisions occurred after that, because the treasures and revelations began to be mingled with the world and its philosophies. The purity of the Spirit was no longer there.

In this very moment, you are receiving treasures. They are not my treasures, they are treasures that I received from the Lord and I am passing them on to you. Therefore, we must be treasure keepers, and must pass it on to those who are faithful. If you are willing to do this, you will then be entrusted by God, and will be anointed to minister to this generation. This is our responsibility - to be “treasure keepers.” May God enable us to be truly faithful and pass it along to other faithful people.


Meshreky, Atef (2016-01-12). Responsibility for the Generation (Kindle Locations 1163-1186). Anchor Publishing & Media. Kindle Edition.

That misinterpretation serves the purpose that all Apostolic Churches are dead, hence the need for the 'new anointed' to establish the 'new' Church! Dr. Meshreky throughout the lengthy writings does not provide even a single 'early father' nor 'early church' supporting reference.

It is a clear contradiction to the Book of Revelation, which prophesies the presence of the Lord and His care for His Churches, the journey all the way to the end times, and warns against adding or taking away from it.

How do you see the contradictions in Dr. Meshreky's misinterpretation?

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  1. Bishoy September 11, 2017 at 11:17 pm

    what is a Church? community of believers. so believers are the bricks of the Church. When I say Holy Apostolic Church, their function is to build one another, “Peace and edification” as we pray in the Holy Liturgy, how we edify one another, but growing together, this idea of secret teaching, how it goes with the meaning of a Church, HH Pope Shenouda taught us clearly that there is a heresy of the using of one verse and neglecting the other. “The high priest then questioned Jesus about his disciples and his teaching.Jesus answered him, “I have spoken openly to the world; I have always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where all Jews come together; I have said nothing secretly.” John 20: 19,20.

    St. Athanasius described how the teaching takes place in the Church ” And that they may know this to be the
    faith of the Church, let them learn how the Lord, when sending forth the apostles, ordered them to lay this foundations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and of the Holy Spirit. The Apostles went, and thus they taught; and this is the preaching that extends to the whole Church which is under heaven.” The First Letter to Serapion 1: 28 furthermore he says “I have delivered the tradition, without inventing anything extraneous to it. what I learned, that have I inscribed conformably with the holy Scriptures..” 1;33. So we refer to the faith lived by the believers, this faith which makes the people enjoy this One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church. That is why as I mentioned above in the absolution of the servants, we give examples for the pillars of faith ending by HH, that is to say the pope who keeps the faith from all the list above that is why he starts by saying “the mouth of One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church” mouth of the faithful fathers who kept the faith. So whomever share this faith and life is following the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church.

  2. Bishoy September 14, 2017 at 12:10 am

    ما هي الكنيسة؟ هي مجتمع المؤمنين. فالمؤمنين هم عناصر بناء الكنيسة. عندما نقول الكنيسة الرسولية المقدسة، وظيفتها هي بناء بعضنا البعض، نحن نصلي في القداس الإلهي “سلاماً وبنياناً”. كيف نبني بعضنا البعض، وننمو معاً.

    هذه الفكرة عن التعليم السري، كيف تتوافق مع معنى الكنيسة؟ علمنا البابا شنودة بوضوح أن هناك بدعة استخدام الآية واحدة وإهمال الباقي والموضوع. “فَسَأَلَ رَئِيسُ الْكَهَنَةِ يَسُوعَ عَنْ تلاَمِيذِهِ وَعَنْ تَعْلِيمِهِ. أَجَابَهُ يَسُوعُ: أَنَا كَلَّمْتُ الْعَالَمَ علاَنِيَةً. أَنَا عَلَّمْتُ كُلَّ حِينٍ فِي الْمَجْمَعِ وَفِي الْهَيْكَلِ حَيْثُ يَجْتَمِعُ الْيَهُودُ دَائِماً. وَفِي الْخَفَاءِ لَمْ أَتَكَلَّمْ بِشَيْءٍ.” يوحنا ١٨ :١٩-٢٠.

    ووصف القديس أثناسيوس كيف يجري التعليم في الكنيسة “وأنهم قد يعرفون هذا ليكون

    إيمان الكنيسة، دعهم يتعلمون كيف أن الرب، عند إرسال الرسل، أمرهم بوضع هذه الأسس، وتعميدهم باسم الآب والابن والروح القدس. ذهب الرسل، وبذلك علموا. هذا هو الوعظ الذي يمتد إلى الكنيسة كلها تحت السماء “. الرسالة الأولى إلى سيرابيون 1: 28 وعلاوة على ذلك يقول” لقد سلّمت التقليد، من دون اختراع أي شيء غريب عليه. ما تعلمته، وأنا وافقته تماماً مع الكتب المقدسة .. “1: 33.

    لذلك نشير إلى الإيمان الذي عاشه المؤمنون، وهذا الإيمان الذي يجعل الناس ينتفعون بهذه الكنيسة الرسولية الجامعة المقدسة. هذا هو السبب الذي نذكره سلفاً في تحليل الخدام، فنحن نعطي أمثلة لأركان الإيمان تنتهي الى قداسة البابا. أي أن البابا الذي يحافظ على الإيمان كسلسلة المذكورين سلفاً، هو السبب في أن يُبدأ بالقول “فم الكنيسة الرسولية المقدسة” وفم الآباء المؤمنين الذين حافظوا على الإيمان. لذلك من يشترك في هذا الإيمان والحياة يتبع الكنيسة الرسولية الجامعة..

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